Saturday, November 14, 2009

Ninjutsu??

i live in palmdale, california and i was wondering if there were any schools that teach ninjutsu?


or at least anywhere in california?


i checked online but i couldnt find any so i need help|||To briefly answer your question, please consult the white pages over at:





http://www.winjutsu.com/





There are Bujinkan dojo that I%26#039;m familiar with in San Diego, Irvine, South Orange County, Riverside, Anaheim/Orange, Los Angeles, Monterey... I know there are some Genbukan practitioners spread around, but I know nothing about Jinenkan dojo... Please keep in mind that the Genbukan and Jinenkan were formed by former senior students of Hatsumi-sensei of the Bujinkan.





The group at Los Angeles Bujinkan are fantastic, and Ron Blackwood%26#039;s Ohoko Dojo in Anaheim/Orange is really good, especially if you%26#039;re into outdoorsy stuff (camping, wilderness training, orienteering, etc.).





Some comments on ninjutsu and the Bujinkan specifically:





First, understand that ninjutsu is not what you think. If you want to train in it, set aside any preconceived notions: the art of ninpo consists not in physically killing your opponent, but rather killing his will to fight. Once this is done, you%26#039;re free to escape -- survival is most important.





As for the densho of the Bujinkan, verification of densho is a personal decision. Hatsumi-sensei has faith that the teachings that Takamatsu-sensei taught him were genuine -- he has no reason to doubt this, so what reason would there be to verify? Train in the art, learn the legends and history, and accept it as it is, and discover for yourself. The densho for Togakure Ryu is, I believe, written by Takamatsu-sensei, since it was previously transmitted as kuden (oral transmission) which is a common practice, especially considering this is how many arts were preserved through the Sengoku era.





Technically there are 9 schools, three which teach ninjutsu. The only school we really study ninpo taijutsu (ninja body skills; that is, fighting) from is Togakure ryu. There are really only a few techniques in this school, and to really understand any of them requires an understanding of other principles. Real ninjutsu (espionage techniques, special tactics, etc.) have been discussed on occasion with longstanding members, but are not openly taught.|||Hi there





There is only one last surviving school of ninjutsu that is still practiced today. It is well known that the Soke of this school is Hatsumi and he is based in Noda Japan. He is the head of the Bujinkan organization which also covers other schools of jujutsu.





There are 2 other organizations that also cover this school which are Genbukan and Jinenkan. Both instructors of these schools were once students of Hatsumi.





Please be aware that it has yet to be confirmed that what is practiced is 100 percent authentic. Hatsumi has never had his densho (teaching scrolls) confirmed by the Koryu budo society. But it is believed by many scholars in Japan that what he is teaching is real.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bujinkan





Dojo links can be found here.





http://www.ninjutsu.com/dojos-links.php#...


http://www.jinenkan-butoku.com/links.htm...


http://www.genbukan.org use dojo locator





However be cautious! Any school that is not part of the above three organizations are quite simply fake schools. There are also quite a few crap schools out there so make sure that the one you decide to go for that the shidoshi is registered and has a full shidoshi kai membership.





If it resembles koryu Japanese arts then its authentic. If it doesnt then its fake. Simple! You dont need densho to prove whats real or not you just have to have experience of many other koryu arts of that period to be able to tell the difference.





Best wishes





idai|||To say that Hatsumi is the only ninja master left is total rubbish and this kind of answer(repeated over the years)needs to be updated.





If you think so please answer the Koryu, Kuden questions.


Is Bujinkan Koryu? Is the densho proven beyond takamatsu%26#039;s handwriting? What is said about it in Bugei Ry没ha Jiten, by takamatsu%26#039;s personal friend?





The togakure lineage, the most famous in Bujinkan has not been able to be proven as historically true. 34 grandmasters in 800 years. You do the maths.





http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthre...


http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.p...


http://www.e-budo.com/forum/showthread.p...





And do you train in the ninja arts or Bujinkan taijutsu or budo taijutsu stuff. Just look at the training in the past


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7A-EJ_tr...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h34TOw02q...


Do you train like that?





If one chooses to have faith in densho passed down by only their master, on kuden(oral) transmissions, and choose not to have their documents examined, then what basis do we have to say ashida kim, frank dux, john ang, ronald duncan, kazuo saito, Harunaka Hoshino, Toshitora Yamashiro are not authentic? Nothing. They are as real/unreal as everyone else.





No one has monopoly on the word Ninja.





Kawakami is well known in Japan for being the last ninja.


We can respect the martial artist and his fighting skill, but to say who is a ninja or not, the bujinkan is not the guide.





A ninja is simply one who trains and practices shinobi arts.|||supposedly there are only 2 real masters alive, and they live in japan, so good luck with that|||Closest one is 1 hour away and it in Los Angeles http://shadowwarriorsninjitsu.com/

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