Monday, November 16, 2009

Ninjutsu real or commercialised?

Whats your views on ninjutsu is it still a viable art or just over advertised for money and movie interest.|||I%26#039;d say its both real and commercialised depending how deep you search for a genuine authentic club and lineage.





Ninujitsu is very similar to jiu-jitsu in the as far as certain techniques go, ie: tai-jitsu which looks just like jiu-jitsu to myself as I witnessed a ninjutsu class which was on an hour before my class in jiu-jitsu started at the james murray centre at Baillieston Glasgow). as I trained at two different venues my main one the (kelvin hall in glasgow ) and I was always an hour early for Baillieston as it was the other side of Glasgow from where I stayed at the time.


From my many observations watching tai-jitsu I noticed that after applying locks tai-jitsu seemed to favour striking the joint as a follow through and many other techniques similar but seemed based heavily on jiu-jitsu.


Yes the movies are over hyped and some books also but there are genuine clubs around check these links out.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaaki_Hat...





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_K._...





http://www.budotaijutsu.co.uk/





Best wishes :)***|||uh|||That all depends on which way you look at it.





Some historians claim that ninjitsu never really existed as an art. The ninja passed their knowledge through their relatives and clan mouth to mouth. One could not speak about a single art as each tought their art from gathered experiences. It is also pretty uncertain whether or not the current styles of Ninjitsu tie in to the historical fighting styles of the Ninja, or are a 20th century development. The origins and contents of the art itself are mostly a mistery(mainly due to the secrecy of the ninja). There are schools that do indeed teach a viable art, but it%26#039;s safe to say that there%26#039;s a lot of mcdojo%26#039;s out there where %26quot;secret techniques%26quot; and other bullshido is taught|||still viable with a good sensei . good luck|||Very commercialized, but still real.





The problem is the real schools are hard to find.


The rule of thumb is real schools don%26#039;t give you unrealistic expectations. Anyone who says they%26#039;ll make you into a super-killer in four weeks is selling you a pail of b.s.





Another sign is I understand serious ninjutsu instructors actually do a lot of work to avoid the crazier students. So they don%26#039;t take in those obvious advertisements and may just have a small corner ad in the phone book, or simply rely on word of mouth. One instructor in one article said the biggest challenge in running a ninjutsu school was that they got the worst kind of weirdos who always wanted to seek them out; so they had to be careful before accepting a student.





So I%26#039;m thinking the flashier it is, the worst it is. Besides, when was flashiness ever a ninja virtue? Think about it.|||Well Hatsumi had done a lot fo reasearch into the fighting styles of the Ninja and its history and origin but alot of the modern ninjitsu techniques are taken from other arts simply because they are either more effctive or there just isn%26#039;t enough information about the Ninja%26#039;s style of fighting





Studying Ninjitsu doesn%26#039;t make you a Ninja just like if I were to study Krav maga it wouldn%26#039;t make me an Israely special forces soldier, it just a fun way to learn some self defence while dressing up in a Ninja suit or cammo pants|||ninjitsu is a real martial art mostly lost.





the magic side is there alchemy used for distraction etc.





aparently the various tools used by ninja did exist but films probably make a lot up or modify the ideas.





simply the martial art would be hard to recover (think it was like karate - each family clan had there own version) never mind how to use the tools with the correct technique|||Ha so,|||Ninjitsu is not viable on its own, you have to have other skills. It is a cool martial art for the movies.





Look into Thug-jitsu, practiced by Yves Edwards. He ripped off an awesome KO at this past Elite XC event. Jumping knee from a single leg attempt. (More impressive than anything Kimbo did)|||Ninjitsu is as viable as a martial art as any of the rest of them. Taekwon Do, karate, judo, etc. It all boils down to the practitioner of the art, though. Most people, particularly in the US, don%26#039;t have access to good traditional instructors who can teach the truly remarkable theories and techniques in an art.|||your name answers your own question. how mysterious is that?|||Both (YOUR NAME says it all... don%26#039;t you think?)|||Both. Ninjutsu Is Still Quite A Real Art. Although, Not A Mainstream Sport Like Karate, There Are Still A FEW Places Where True Ninjutsu Is Taught. It%26#039;s A Valid Martial Art. Also, Through Things Like Naruto, Ninja Are Portrayed To Have Magical Powers And That Stuff Is Way Overcommercialised. The Truth Of It Is That The Average People Had To Devise A Way To Fight Back Against %26#039;The Man%26#039; (Samurai). You Know, With Average Farm Tools And Stuff. They Got In, Did Their Deeds, And Got The Heck Out Of There. Those Were Real Ninja. Why Did The Koala Bear Fall Out Of The Tree? Because It Died!|||I think it is more commercialized today. I don%26#039;t think thye are getting the training like they would have in Japan. Everyone claims to be the only or last student trained by a Ninja.





How long has it really been since there was a Ninja?





I do believe that the training may have been handed down in the family, but it is watered down in America.|||That I cannot answer for it is a secret!|||People still have interest in Ninja movies??|||Truthfully I doubt you will find a ninjutsu school in your local area that hasn%26#039;t been commercialised and watered down to some degree. Eastern martial arts didn%26#039;t have a graded learning system as such until it was introduced to the west, many believed that such a structure diluted the purity of the art. Also large inpersonal classes are a faulting practice, most MA masters of the east take in very few students at a time.


Furthermore the purpose of ninjutsu isn%26#039;t really relevant in modern society, ninjutsu is the art of assasination why do you need that? 99% of people don%26#039;t require such an art.|||Still a very viable martial art.





Traditionally, ninjitsu practitioners (ninjas) were doctors or mortitians; i.e. professionals with a great deal of knowledge of the human physiology. They were very skilled in taking someone down quickly.





Now days, as a self defence martial art, it is still quite useable for a quick imobilisation for escape and even as a fighting style.|||REAL yet VERY commercialized!!! Happy international awesome ninja day! I know I know Not a real day but me and my ninja gang felt like being extra ninja- ish today.|||sd

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