I agree... Interesting choices. One is Chinese in origin, the other Japanese. (Though, ninjutsu is not just another martial arts style. It was the practice of the spies and assassins of feudal Japan.)
In answer to your question.... Depends on the instruction one gets in an art. I am interested in Baguazhang as a method. However, it%26#039;s very hard to find good instruction in that. And to those who haven%26#039;t heard of it.... Baguazhang is one of the three internal martial arts from China. (Taijiquan (%26quot;Tai Chi%26quot;)and xingyiquan being the other two.) It utilizes circling and spiraling movements. The most available example of it was in Jet Li%26#039;s movie %26quot;The One%26quot;. (The good Jet Li character did Baguazhang, the bad one used Xingyiquan.)|||To judomofo: go and challenge an authentic Baguazhang master in their 80%26#039;s in China. and i%26#039;ll time how long you can last. i mean it. tired of ppl saying kungfu is some fancy **** when they don%26#039;t know the complete picture of it... Report Abuse
|||last glass of this wine..it%26#039;s getting me..but really find a true Baguazhang(or even taichi) master in China even if they%26#039;re old, you be surprised. Report Abuse
|||I see only few of you guys know BaguaZhang. baguazhang isnt any other fighting method. It was the art practised by chinese Bodyguards. Its still most preffered by Govt bodyguards and secret service.Dr John Painter was trained under this art by a former Bodyguard. Report Abuse
|||even top ufc fighters cant last with true baguazhang fighters Report Abuse
|||um...i wonder why you specifically mentioned Baguazhang and Ninjutsu...as both of these arts are not from the same style and they%26#039;re not popular...especially the former...interesting.|||Like your other responders, I%26#039;m curious why you chose those two systems out of all the others.
To say that one system is better than another is like saying %26#039;what%26#039;s better, Chicken or Steak?%26#039; Those that like Chicken will say Chicken, those that like Steak will say Steak, and the Vegetarians will say they both suck. What have you really learned?|||what%26#039;s Baguazhang ? is that the same as taichi?|||Umm yeah.
Pretty much any system that is based in reality, that you get to practice on a fully resisting opponent and are able to do competetion in, so that you can test your skills against someone who is truly trying to take your head off as well.
Forms, Makiwara, Kata, pushing hands, cooperative partners, choreographed moves, all are worthless in reality. Until you get to spar at 90 to 100 percent, using all of your techniques, you won%26#039;t ever fully train them.
Ninjutsu is total garbage, it is the land of frauds and counterfeits. Guys who claim lineage when it was never a true art to begin with. It%26#039;s the land of Ashida Kim and Frank Dux.
Bagua is like most other Kung Fu, looks great, will train your body to do very impressive things, and will be totally worthless in a real fight against anyone who is sober. Of course, you may use it against a drunk guy who has no idea of how to fight, and there it may be effective.
But most of the time you will get rushed, grabbed, beaten on, thrown to the ground and beaten on some more.
No hardcore sparring = Not realistic training.
No Competetions because techniques are too deadly = Useless crap, if you are not able to test your technique against a stranger in an adrenaline dump situation, you won%26#039;t truly know what works and what doesn%26#039;t.
Eye gouges, throat strikes, etc = Anyone can do those, and having never done it in against someone trying to resist, you have no idea how difficult it is to actually do. The human body%26#039;s natural reflexes protect vital spots.
Just my two cents.|||Bagua is the practice of circle walking is bagua%26#039;s characteristic method of stance and movement training. By definition, the practice of these internal styles generates Qi (internal energy) for both health and combat purposes. Its a rare form that not many practice.
Ninjutsu is ninja arts.
Better to study Bujinkan. Bujinkan is unique. It is not a sport or just a fighting art but is a true martial art. It houses ancient Japanese warrior traditions and is a full self-protection and self-defense system involving nine schools of combat.
If you want to attack without anyone noticing then be a ninja. If you want everyone to know that your dancing around your opponet before you kick his ***, then do Bagua.
These two forms are very different and are diffrent in culture.|||Yes, the guy on cover of %26quot;Lord of Dance%26quot; movie tape is way better at fighting than anyone stupid enough to studies those arts.|||odd that you threw those in together.
bagua is an art that is rarely practiced or taught properly and people attribute it to no more than %26quot;circle walking%26quot;. The problem with bagua (like most CMAs- chinese martial arts) is that it is not trained realistically and you have either people training completely solo or with no resistance (how can you learn to use it against your opponent?).
I can sit around and practice jabs, crosses and hooks all day, but if I don%26#039;t practice how to implement them they do me little to no good. Solo practice has its place but you NEED to train against fully resisting opponents.
Ninjitsu is never practiced or taught properly, meaning anyone claiming to have trained in or practiced %26quot;ninjitsu%26quot; falls into one of these categories:
1- They are bieng lied to and the teacher and school is an outright fraud (aishida kim)
2- they are bieng taught legitimate techniques that are another style that is not ninjitsu. Still this is unscrupulous as the school is marketing to cash in on the fanboy image of ninjitsu that is still haunting us from the 80%26#039;s.
3- you have invented a fully functioning time-machine, travelled back to feudal japan, actually found a real ninja to train you (and found out that they did in fact historically exist and didn%26#039;t make the trip for nothing), then found a way back to the future with your time machine with a quick stop over 1000 years in the future to battle the underground cannibals known as the morlocks with your ninja skills.
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