Sunday, April 26, 2009

How many Ninjutsu schools are out there in the world?

I wanted to know how many schools teach this fascinating martial art throughout the world? Are the Japanese dojos far superior than the US Ninjutsu dojos? Are the 18 disciplines still taught today as a way to conserve the art%26#039;s origins? Your answer will be appreciated. Thank you.|||The only organization that teaches real Ninjutsu is the Bujinkan. There are hundreds if not thousands of Bujinkan dojos world wide. It%26#039;s not a well known martial art and we like it that way. You can still learn all 18 of the disciplines but you%26#039;re not going to find very many Bujinkan dojos that teach all of them. Most dojos don%26#039;t teach kayakujutsu, bajutsu, choho, tenmon, chimon, or boryaku. I%26#039;m sure that you could go to the Honbu Dojo and Hatsumi could teach them to you... if you were a shihan. Those skills are not dead, they are just not taught in many dojos. Another art in the Bujinkan that%26#039;s hard to find in the USA is Amatsu Tatari, but some shidoshi and shihan are working on bringing it over.|||Bujinkan Ninja is not entirely correct with his answer. %26quot;Technically%26quot; there are two other organizations that teach real ninjutsu. The Genbukan and the Jinenkan. Report Abuse
|||http://www.Bujinkan.com/guidelines.htm


http://www.ninjutsu.com/dojos-links.php


http://www.ninjutsu.com/IBDAdojolocation...


http://www.duxryu.8m.com/





There are other dojos out there, especially in Europe that are not affiliated with Soke Hatsumi and Bunjinkan or Frank Dux and Dux Ryu, I never studied at any of those dojos and therefore have no info on them. Warning: researching Dux Ryu and Frank Dux himself is going to lead you to a whole different series of questions and undefined answers.





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http://www.program51.com|||http://www.bullshido.com/articles/ninjut...





a well-balanced analysis of the alleged martial art.








EDIT: FRANK DUX IS A KNOWN FRAUD-





http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthre...





there are links in the article and cites you can verify for yourself.|||i think an easy question to answer would be


how many actually ninjitsu dojo%26#039;s teach legitimate martial arts?


that number would be much easier to count.


|||Q1.) Far too many. Most are teaching garbage and calling it ninjutsu. Still others insist on teaching taijutsu as ninjutsu. The difference is plain if people bother to look.





Q2.) Yes, but mostly because of translation issues and differences in body types. Here, I%26#039;m referring to Taijutsu, which goes back to what most people are thinking of when they think of ninjutsu.





Q3.) Uncertain. The written origin of the bugei juhappan (the 18 %26quot;samurai skills%26quot;) is the Edo period, which is already a period of decline for the Samurai. Since most written records for martial arts stem from this period, and most ninpo-related documents come from 50 years into the Edo period at the earliest, it%26#039;s quite difficult to tell if they are even a preservation of historical skill base, or simply a classification of likely skills.





On the continued use of the Bullshido article (which can not be said to be impartial or balanced if read):


Toda%26#039;s grave was found a few years ago, by Kacem Zoughari if I%26#039;m not mistaken. That puts another generation back that the Togakure Ryu can be traced.


Analyzing documents related to martial arts is often declined on basis of respect for ones teacher -- If you trust your teacher to tell you the truth, then why would you need the proof? There are two sides to this, of course, but this has been the answer given to the issue.


No one in the Bujinkan has claimed to have learned from the scrolls, and it%26#039;s been made clear to the students time and again that the techniques are printed vaguely, and you can see the same vague writing in Soke%26#039;s books.


The dan rankings understood to be %26quot;above judan%26quot; are often referred to (especially by westerners) as 11th - 15th dan. This is not the case, as Judan has menkyo associated with each supposed dan, so what is often called 11th is judan, chi menkyo, with each menkyo representing an element in the godai.


License to teach and license of complete transmission are separate things.


The only element of the fighting critique that%26#039;s patently true is #6 -- there are a lot who get caught up in the %26quot;ninjer stuff%26quot;. While the ground game is not as strong as BJJ, the idea is to get back to your feet, not linger on the ground. Kamae are transitional and relaxed, and the strict postures are a training tool (train big so you move small). Beginners do train off an exaggerated attack. Yudansha should be (but don%26#039;t always) train off more realistic attacks, and often train outside the dojo in a more realistic way. New techniques are commonly done off the early exaggerated form (lunge punch) to get the premise, then pulled in. 4 is a %26quot;who cares?%26quot; -- self defense and competition are separate animals. 5 is unclear.


The existence of ninja today has been handled. One need not be a samurai to study jujutsu (which was originally limited to the warrior class). I still agree that there are very few people alive today who know any ninjutsu, and that knowing it does not make them ninja.

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