Suppose, I say to a ninjutsu master: %26quot;Let%26#039;s see how good you are. I%26#039;ll attack you at my best(simulating that I really want to hit him) and you try to defend yourself%26quot;
I have no experience in martial arts. Suppose I attack him mainly with kicks and punches.|||youd get your *** kicked. If the teacher was good. If not then its up in the air. Its much harder than you think fighting someone, you need to train for stamina strength and speed. If no one has taught you how to fight your going to lose, unless you have a weapon. In which case it depends on how close you are and how good the teacher is.... Either that or he would use voodoo magic and beat you. then youd have no lunch afterwards..|||Ask Maasaki Hatsumi of Japan that question. Report Abuse
|||hhmm...you can%26#039;t just attack him like that...the main ninjutsu types is like a %26#039;shinobi%26#039;. You should ambush and attack him( dont kill him lol)...
but its weird thou...you don%26#039;t even know martial arts...|||You wouldn%26#039;t be the first, you won%26#039;t be the last. It is considered a shame to have that attitude. If a master is attacked, they will evade. Our art focuses on defense of heaven and putting the heart before the sword. I%26#039;m curious about where this desire to challenge comes from, although I suspect you%26#039;re just screwing around.|||You would not be able to find a true master, since he would be invisible! In fact, there are probably several ninjas in your house right now waiting to assassinate you for posting such a disrespectful question! : )
Seriously though, while ninjitsu is not the most realistic art for self-defense, a ninjitsu blackbelt would still be able to defeat an untrained attacker in most cases.|||If he is truly a master he would beat the snot out of you.|||dont and lets say you did|||ud get flattened!!!|||This answer is going to be very subjective based on a %26quot;Ninjutsu master%26#039;s%26quot; personallity.
If you ambush a random martial artist who doesn%26#039;t know who you are, I would be prepared to be injured, maybe fatally.
If you carefully state in a controlled classroom situation that you would like to learn their art, they may decide to teach you (providing you pay for lessons).
If you are trying to prove you are a jackass (ala Johnny Knoxville), then challenge one to a fight, and prepare to get your *** kicked if you run into one without a sense of humor.
Having (in a good natured learning way) sparred with some Jujitsu black belts (one of my former roommates and his friends) in my college days, I can say it is always a painfull experience.|||He would laugh, drop some smoke and disappear!|||you get your *** kicked so quickly, you would not be called a man anymore. yes, they are that deadly, and skilled.|||well that depends the ninjustu master and f his/her life is in danger or not. most ninjustu master act on a self of defense if they feel there lifes in danger or not, but a good ninjustu master would%26#039;nt test there ability%26#039;s unless really have too.|||I strongly suggest that you don%26#039;t do what you propose in your question. It doesn%26#039;t matter whether you announce your attack or not- the ninja will be ready for it. It is impossible to sneak up on and attack a ninja; they have developed their senses (hearing, sight, even smell) so acutely that the presence of another person is instantly known to them. So, let%26#039;s say that you challenge the ninja in the manner that you wrote. You come at him with punches and/or kicks. The ninja has a few different options. He can parry your first punch and kill you with a counter stab to the throat or heart, perhaps using a shobo or a shuriken. Perhaps the ninja will extend your lifespan by choosing to play around with you for a moment by simply avoiding your strikes with his superior speed, not allowing you to even touch him. As soon as you show an opening (only the slightest is needed for the ninja to strike), the ninja would strike. Again, many options for him here, all of them resulting in your death. Perhaps he%26#039;ll stealthily draw a kama from his sleeve, and counter a punch you throw by slicing off your hand with a quick slash. While you react by slipping into shock to your amputation, the ninja finishes you off with a slash to the throat, severing your head from your body (resulting in instant death). Perhaps the ninja will do a front flip over your advance, choose to draw his Kyoketsu-shogei, and bury it in your neck or chest from six feet away. Ninjas carry numerous weapons in addition to their martial arts training. Ninjas have no mercy, and never leave opponents alive after a confrontation. However, a ninja will rarely attack an innocent person, so if you do encounter one, leave him alone.
If you absolutely feel the need to acknowledge the presence of a ninja, perhaps you could get away with a bow of respect. What you wouldn%26#039;t get away with is attacking him, or challenging his combat/assassination skills.|||Well seeing as Ninjutsu is a load of bull, I imagine that the so-called master would get knocked out, even if you barely touched him. After all, Ninjutsu is the art of impersonation of real fighters.
[Lawless laughs at loud.]|||You would be snapped in two like a stick, folded into an origami duck and then fed your own spleen. Good luck !!!|||Good luck finding a ninjutsu master.|||could kill you in a second if that it not good to scare any kinda of martial artist but a master that one rocket scientist question|||If you ask for a confrontation from a true master of Ninjitsu, he%26#039;ll absolutely deny you. He has nothing to prove to you. If it%26#039;s in a ryu/dojo situation, he%26#039;ll probably just floor your every attempt at an attack leaving you battered and constantly point out why you%26#039;re losing. If you try to ambush a true master, this is the last question we%26#039;ll ever hear from you. Their art is designed to kill and leave no trace of them being there.|||you wouldn%26#039;t attack him, he%26#039;d floor ya in a second|||You will die is less than 1 second. The best way to defeat him is to attack his weakest spot -- his balls. Try to grab them as soon as you can. lol.|||You won%26#039;t be able to touch him if he is in the Shodan level. All level 5 ninjutsu masters had Sake test, which intruduces the killer instinct.|||hopefully you won%26#039;t die and he will just catch your puch and throw you on the ground or sweep your kick and push you over|||He would kill you.|||ha ha ha I%26#039;m curious to see that|||Make out your last will and testament before you try.
Sunday, April 26, 2009
How many Ninjutsu schools are out there in the world?
I wanted to know how many schools teach this fascinating martial art throughout the world? Are the Japanese dojos far superior than the US Ninjutsu dojos? Are the 18 disciplines still taught today as a way to conserve the art%26#039;s origins? Your answer will be appreciated. Thank you.|||The only organization that teaches real Ninjutsu is the Bujinkan. There are hundreds if not thousands of Bujinkan dojos world wide. It%26#039;s not a well known martial art and we like it that way. You can still learn all 18 of the disciplines but you%26#039;re not going to find very many Bujinkan dojos that teach all of them. Most dojos don%26#039;t teach kayakujutsu, bajutsu, choho, tenmon, chimon, or boryaku. I%26#039;m sure that you could go to the Honbu Dojo and Hatsumi could teach them to you... if you were a shihan. Those skills are not dead, they are just not taught in many dojos. Another art in the Bujinkan that%26#039;s hard to find in the USA is Amatsu Tatari, but some shidoshi and shihan are working on bringing it over.|||Bujinkan Ninja is not entirely correct with his answer. %26quot;Technically%26quot; there are two other organizations that teach real ninjutsu. The Genbukan and the Jinenkan. Report Abuse
|||http://www.Bujinkan.com/guidelines.htm
http://www.ninjutsu.com/dojos-links.php
http://www.ninjutsu.com/IBDAdojolocation...
http://www.duxryu.8m.com/
There are other dojos out there, especially in Europe that are not affiliated with Soke Hatsumi and Bunjinkan or Frank Dux and Dux Ryu, I never studied at any of those dojos and therefore have no info on them. Warning: researching Dux Ryu and Frank Dux himself is going to lead you to a whole different series of questions and undefined answers.
Jump 20 inches higher in 10 weeks:
http://www.program51.com|||http://www.bullshido.com/articles/ninjut...
a well-balanced analysis of the alleged martial art.
EDIT: FRANK DUX IS A KNOWN FRAUD-
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthre...
there are links in the article and cites you can verify for yourself.|||i think an easy question to answer would be
how many actually ninjitsu dojo%26#039;s teach legitimate martial arts?
that number would be much easier to count.
|||Q1.) Far too many. Most are teaching garbage and calling it ninjutsu. Still others insist on teaching taijutsu as ninjutsu. The difference is plain if people bother to look.
Q2.) Yes, but mostly because of translation issues and differences in body types. Here, I%26#039;m referring to Taijutsu, which goes back to what most people are thinking of when they think of ninjutsu.
Q3.) Uncertain. The written origin of the bugei juhappan (the 18 %26quot;samurai skills%26quot;) is the Edo period, which is already a period of decline for the Samurai. Since most written records for martial arts stem from this period, and most ninpo-related documents come from 50 years into the Edo period at the earliest, it%26#039;s quite difficult to tell if they are even a preservation of historical skill base, or simply a classification of likely skills.
On the continued use of the Bullshido article (which can not be said to be impartial or balanced if read):
Toda%26#039;s grave was found a few years ago, by Kacem Zoughari if I%26#039;m not mistaken. That puts another generation back that the Togakure Ryu can be traced.
Analyzing documents related to martial arts is often declined on basis of respect for ones teacher -- If you trust your teacher to tell you the truth, then why would you need the proof? There are two sides to this, of course, but this has been the answer given to the issue.
No one in the Bujinkan has claimed to have learned from the scrolls, and it%26#039;s been made clear to the students time and again that the techniques are printed vaguely, and you can see the same vague writing in Soke%26#039;s books.
The dan rankings understood to be %26quot;above judan%26quot; are often referred to (especially by westerners) as 11th - 15th dan. This is not the case, as Judan has menkyo associated with each supposed dan, so what is often called 11th is judan, chi menkyo, with each menkyo representing an element in the godai.
License to teach and license of complete transmission are separate things.
The only element of the fighting critique that%26#039;s patently true is #6 -- there are a lot who get caught up in the %26quot;ninjer stuff%26quot;. While the ground game is not as strong as BJJ, the idea is to get back to your feet, not linger on the ground. Kamae are transitional and relaxed, and the strict postures are a training tool (train big so you move small). Beginners do train off an exaggerated attack. Yudansha should be (but don%26#039;t always) train off more realistic attacks, and often train outside the dojo in a more realistic way. New techniques are commonly done off the early exaggerated form (lunge punch) to get the premise, then pulled in. 4 is a %26quot;who cares?%26quot; -- self defense and competition are separate animals. 5 is unclear.
The existence of ninja today has been handled. One need not be a samurai to study jujutsu (which was originally limited to the warrior class). I still agree that there are very few people alive today who know any ninjutsu, and that knowing it does not make them ninja.
|||http://www.Bujinkan.com/guidelines.htm
http://www.ninjutsu.com/dojos-links.php
http://www.ninjutsu.com/IBDAdojolocation...
http://www.duxryu.8m.com/
There are other dojos out there, especially in Europe that are not affiliated with Soke Hatsumi and Bunjinkan or Frank Dux and Dux Ryu, I never studied at any of those dojos and therefore have no info on them. Warning: researching Dux Ryu and Frank Dux himself is going to lead you to a whole different series of questions and undefined answers.
Jump 20 inches higher in 10 weeks:
http://www.program51.com|||http://www.bullshido.com/articles/ninjut...
a well-balanced analysis of the alleged martial art.
EDIT: FRANK DUX IS A KNOWN FRAUD-
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthre...
there are links in the article and cites you can verify for yourself.|||i think an easy question to answer would be
how many actually ninjitsu dojo%26#039;s teach legitimate martial arts?
that number would be much easier to count.
|||Q1.) Far too many. Most are teaching garbage and calling it ninjutsu. Still others insist on teaching taijutsu as ninjutsu. The difference is plain if people bother to look.
Q2.) Yes, but mostly because of translation issues and differences in body types. Here, I%26#039;m referring to Taijutsu, which goes back to what most people are thinking of when they think of ninjutsu.
Q3.) Uncertain. The written origin of the bugei juhappan (the 18 %26quot;samurai skills%26quot;) is the Edo period, which is already a period of decline for the Samurai. Since most written records for martial arts stem from this period, and most ninpo-related documents come from 50 years into the Edo period at the earliest, it%26#039;s quite difficult to tell if they are even a preservation of historical skill base, or simply a classification of likely skills.
On the continued use of the Bullshido article (which can not be said to be impartial or balanced if read):
Toda%26#039;s grave was found a few years ago, by Kacem Zoughari if I%26#039;m not mistaken. That puts another generation back that the Togakure Ryu can be traced.
Analyzing documents related to martial arts is often declined on basis of respect for ones teacher -- If you trust your teacher to tell you the truth, then why would you need the proof? There are two sides to this, of course, but this has been the answer given to the issue.
No one in the Bujinkan has claimed to have learned from the scrolls, and it%26#039;s been made clear to the students time and again that the techniques are printed vaguely, and you can see the same vague writing in Soke%26#039;s books.
The dan rankings understood to be %26quot;above judan%26quot; are often referred to (especially by westerners) as 11th - 15th dan. This is not the case, as Judan has menkyo associated with each supposed dan, so what is often called 11th is judan, chi menkyo, with each menkyo representing an element in the godai.
License to teach and license of complete transmission are separate things.
The only element of the fighting critique that%26#039;s patently true is #6 -- there are a lot who get caught up in the %26quot;ninjer stuff%26quot;. While the ground game is not as strong as BJJ, the idea is to get back to your feet, not linger on the ground. Kamae are transitional and relaxed, and the strict postures are a training tool (train big so you move small). Beginners do train off an exaggerated attack. Yudansha should be (but don%26#039;t always) train off more realistic attacks, and often train outside the dojo in a more realistic way. New techniques are commonly done off the early exaggerated form (lunge punch) to get the premise, then pulled in. 4 is a %26quot;who cares?%26quot; -- self defense and competition are separate animals. 5 is unclear.
The existence of ninja today has been handled. One need not be a samurai to study jujutsu (which was originally limited to the warrior class). I still agree that there are very few people alive today who know any ninjutsu, and that knowing it does not make them ninja.
Ninjutsu??
I would like to go to Japan alone to learn ninjutsu, this summer i am 14 and think it would help me know that type of art. But i do not know japanese, neither where to find the teacher. Help me.|||Technically, the ninja became extinct with the creation of the Tokugawa Shogunate in 1603. The last person known to have practiced their family arts was Takamtsu Toshitsugu, who worked as an intelligence agent for the Japanese government during World War II. Takamatsu sensei had one student, Dr. Masaaki Hatsumi (Hatsumi Masaaki sensei).
Hatsumi sensei teaches a system of martial arts called Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu; although it is generally accepted that he is teaching legitimate historical ninjutsu, this has never been verified because he refuses to let anyone see the family scrolls passed to him by Takamatsu sensei. The URL for his hombu dojo is:
http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/bujinkan/
Several of his highest-ranking students have schools and even distance-learning programs in the United States. They include:
http://www.genbukan.org
Tanemura Shoto is one of Hatsumi sensei%26#039;s most senior former students, and grandmaster of several other traditional Japanese systems.
http://www.jinenkan.com
Manaka Unsui is another senior Japanese master.
http://www.ninjutsu.com
the website of grandmaster Richard van Donk, who set the standardized form for teaching Bujinkan in the U. S.
And, of course,
http://www.skhquest.com
Stephen Hayes was the first westerner to study ninjutsu, and single-handedly created the %26quot;ninja%26quot; craze of the 1980%26#039;s. Today, he teaches both Bujinkan and his own system.
Also, you can learn Japanese on-line for free at http://www.japanese-online.com
Ganbatte!
As for kung fu vs. ninjutsu, %26quot;kung fu%26quot; is not a martial art. %26quot;Kung fu%26quot; literally means %26quot;difficult achievement%26quot;, and refers to the highest level of skill in any activity. The generic Mandarin Chinese term for martial arts is %26quot;quan fa%26quot;, which translates as %26quot;fist method%26quot;--which is why you sometimes see references to %26quot;Chinese boxing.%26quot;
There are literally hundreds of systems of Chinese martial arts. However, no one system of martial is inherently superior to another--if there was a %26quot;better system%26quot;, everyone would be using it. The real trick is to find the best TEACHER--and ideally, a system that you enjoy practicing.
Best of luck!|||ninjitsu...is basiclly the art of the ninja! I watched a show on national geographic called fight science...the ninja was the #1 style in deadlyness....do it up and goto japan!|||Good luck. Many schools won%26#039;t teach you without actually being Japanese. Gaijin are not widely accepted in traditional martial arts schools. Not speaking the language will also greatly hinder your finding a school.
If you really want to learn Ninjitsu then find a school closer to your home than Japan. Could you even live there on your own at 14? Who would pay for your lodging and food? Japan is very expensive.
Kung-Fu vs Ninjitsu? There is no answer to this question. It%26#039;s personal preference as to what you are looking for in the art.
What%26#039;s suits your body style, ability, and mostly interest.|||i dont think u can be ready 2 go 2 japan by this summer(wont be fluent enough).... and ur 14 if u could live on ur own and have money 4 martial arts in a foreign country... id b impressed.... you might haf 2 find a special highschool or a community college or sumthin... even then the way the school systems are set up 4 u 2 learn languages.... well i know this guy... hes in german 4 right? he says he speaks it bout as good as a first grader..... thats german 4...im not at all tryin 2 kill your dream.... just being realistic... you should wait a few years (preparing the whole time) bout ninjitsu here in the usa there arnt many schools.. the closest thing is bujinkan and i met sum ppl who do that but they broke away from the organization because of corruption or sumthin like that... ne ways this guy says its %26quot;watered down ninjitsu%26quot;....but its the only ninjitsu that i know of.. ne ways there is a ninjitsu guy on %26quot;fight science%26quot; a special done on martial arts by national geographic.. the guy looks american... if watch it ull find out his name (u can watch the whole thing on youtube) once u know his name shouldint be 2 hard 2 figure out exactly what style he does... so either that or bujinkan.. and theres another style.. starts with a t... i4got.... but most ninjutsu schools dont enjoy a good rep(unless its buijinkan).... so id avoid em..
bout kung fu vs ninjitsu - it depends there are many styles and many ryus of those many styles all have diffrent strgnths and weaknesses... as long as u find a good teacher.. and u are a good student.. ur good 2 go... but kungfu has a vast corriculum and if u find the right school (i would do tien shan pai...err... will do) ull get good enough 2 pick up ninjitsu faster... ne ways who go 2 japan now? take bujinkan or kung fu or anything get good and coordinated an all that goto a community college get ur feet wet in japanese.... then goto japan and study it...(if i were u id move to kansas city goto jonsoncounty community college and take japanese and take ryu-te karate-do then work my way up the ranks to have tika oyata teach u all the family secrets n stuff(tika lives in independence so it aint that bad of a drive) then once ur tha pimp shizzle at that goto japan) why? kansas city is the pimpest place ever list of all bujinkan dojos in the world... i think-
http://www.frappr.com/bujinkanbudodojos/...|||Try the shaolin temple in china as far as japan look on wikipedia under ninjitsu they have the top schools there. but you need to learn the language if you intend on going|||you will sooooo need to learn japanese in order to learn ninjitsu in japan. i%26#039;d go with you but i%26#039;m already going to south korea for my taekwondo and i don%26#039;t know japanese.
search for dr. hatsumi, i heard hes a really good ninjitsu sensei|||Latter day self-proclaimed %26quot;ninja%26quot; like Hasaki Matsumi and Stephen Hayes are considered a joke in Japan. So if you want to learn %26quot;ninjutsu%26quot; the best place is in the US where people actually buy that nonesense.|||You can start by contacting this place. The owner was trained by the current Grandmaster of one of the Ninja styles still bieng taught.
http://www.skhquest.com/
Hatsumi sensei teaches a system of martial arts called Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu; although it is generally accepted that he is teaching legitimate historical ninjutsu, this has never been verified because he refuses to let anyone see the family scrolls passed to him by Takamatsu sensei. The URL for his hombu dojo is:
http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/bujinkan/
Several of his highest-ranking students have schools and even distance-learning programs in the United States. They include:
http://www.genbukan.org
Tanemura Shoto is one of Hatsumi sensei%26#039;s most senior former students, and grandmaster of several other traditional Japanese systems.
http://www.jinenkan.com
Manaka Unsui is another senior Japanese master.
http://www.ninjutsu.com
the website of grandmaster Richard van Donk, who set the standardized form for teaching Bujinkan in the U. S.
And, of course,
http://www.skhquest.com
Stephen Hayes was the first westerner to study ninjutsu, and single-handedly created the %26quot;ninja%26quot; craze of the 1980%26#039;s. Today, he teaches both Bujinkan and his own system.
Also, you can learn Japanese on-line for free at http://www.japanese-online.com
Ganbatte!
As for kung fu vs. ninjutsu, %26quot;kung fu%26quot; is not a martial art. %26quot;Kung fu%26quot; literally means %26quot;difficult achievement%26quot;, and refers to the highest level of skill in any activity. The generic Mandarin Chinese term for martial arts is %26quot;quan fa%26quot;, which translates as %26quot;fist method%26quot;--which is why you sometimes see references to %26quot;Chinese boxing.%26quot;
There are literally hundreds of systems of Chinese martial arts. However, no one system of martial is inherently superior to another--if there was a %26quot;better system%26quot;, everyone would be using it. The real trick is to find the best TEACHER--and ideally, a system that you enjoy practicing.
Best of luck!|||ninjitsu...is basiclly the art of the ninja! I watched a show on national geographic called fight science...the ninja was the #1 style in deadlyness....do it up and goto japan!|||Good luck. Many schools won%26#039;t teach you without actually being Japanese. Gaijin are not widely accepted in traditional martial arts schools. Not speaking the language will also greatly hinder your finding a school.
If you really want to learn Ninjitsu then find a school closer to your home than Japan. Could you even live there on your own at 14? Who would pay for your lodging and food? Japan is very expensive.
Kung-Fu vs Ninjitsu? There is no answer to this question. It%26#039;s personal preference as to what you are looking for in the art.
What%26#039;s suits your body style, ability, and mostly interest.|||i dont think u can be ready 2 go 2 japan by this summer(wont be fluent enough).... and ur 14 if u could live on ur own and have money 4 martial arts in a foreign country... id b impressed.... you might haf 2 find a special highschool or a community college or sumthin... even then the way the school systems are set up 4 u 2 learn languages.... well i know this guy... hes in german 4 right? he says he speaks it bout as good as a first grader..... thats german 4...im not at all tryin 2 kill your dream.... just being realistic... you should wait a few years (preparing the whole time) bout ninjitsu here in the usa there arnt many schools.. the closest thing is bujinkan and i met sum ppl who do that but they broke away from the organization because of corruption or sumthin like that... ne ways this guy says its %26quot;watered down ninjitsu%26quot;....but its the only ninjitsu that i know of.. ne ways there is a ninjitsu guy on %26quot;fight science%26quot; a special done on martial arts by national geographic.. the guy looks american... if watch it ull find out his name (u can watch the whole thing on youtube) once u know his name shouldint be 2 hard 2 figure out exactly what style he does... so either that or bujinkan.. and theres another style.. starts with a t... i4got.... but most ninjutsu schools dont enjoy a good rep(unless its buijinkan).... so id avoid em..
bout kung fu vs ninjitsu - it depends there are many styles and many ryus of those many styles all have diffrent strgnths and weaknesses... as long as u find a good teacher.. and u are a good student.. ur good 2 go... but kungfu has a vast corriculum and if u find the right school (i would do tien shan pai...err... will do) ull get good enough 2 pick up ninjitsu faster... ne ways who go 2 japan now? take bujinkan or kung fu or anything get good and coordinated an all that goto a community college get ur feet wet in japanese.... then goto japan and study it...(if i were u id move to kansas city goto jonsoncounty community college and take japanese and take ryu-te karate-do then work my way up the ranks to have tika oyata teach u all the family secrets n stuff(tika lives in independence so it aint that bad of a drive) then once ur tha pimp shizzle at that goto japan) why? kansas city is the pimpest place ever list of all bujinkan dojos in the world... i think-
http://www.frappr.com/bujinkanbudodojos/...|||Try the shaolin temple in china as far as japan look on wikipedia under ninjitsu they have the top schools there. but you need to learn the language if you intend on going|||you will sooooo need to learn japanese in order to learn ninjitsu in japan. i%26#039;d go with you but i%26#039;m already going to south korea for my taekwondo and i don%26#039;t know japanese.
search for dr. hatsumi, i heard hes a really good ninjitsu sensei|||Latter day self-proclaimed %26quot;ninja%26quot; like Hasaki Matsumi and Stephen Hayes are considered a joke in Japan. So if you want to learn %26quot;ninjutsu%26quot; the best place is in the US where people actually buy that nonesense.|||You can start by contacting this place. The owner was trained by the current Grandmaster of one of the Ninja styles still bieng taught.
http://www.skhquest.com/
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